Friday, December 18. 2009Labor Government Mandated Filtering.......John Linton .....one more example of Krudd's grandiloquent rhetoric resulting in long and expensive 'consultations' eventually resulting in money being spent (yours and mine) on completely useless non-outcomes......and I'm anything but "pro-child pornography"....being a father, relatively sane and a believer in "the Baader - Meinhof legal solution" to societal plagues. So Labor has managed, after more than two years of nonsense to pluck up the courage to "honour" one of its election promises and try and convince that crazy Fielding to support their EFTS legislation and their other even crazier fantasies. When you actually look at Labor's record in government to date the only "election promise" they have kept is that they guaranteed to spend more money that the country had and they have met that well and truly....don't moan on about how they signed the Kyoto protocol....they did nothing about it except Krudd had one of his thousands of overseas trips for yet another 'photo op' and now Penny Wrong has been arguing about how useless the Kyoto protocol is ever since she hit the Copenhagen bars and night clubs. Any way; back to the ludicrous Labor Mandated Filtering "election promise". Personally it matters absolutely nothing to me what this bunch of uneducated left wing lunatics proclaims or what they actually get to legislate. This is a democracy and enough of the population of Australia (including the majority of the people now complaining about it) voted to have this plethora of idiots and no hopers make decisions 'for the good of the Australian people'. So live with the results of your decisions to allow these useless morons to be elected and I hope you realise that they are bringing the same lack of education, knowledge and total lack of intellect to EVERY other subject and decision they are making 'for the good of the Australian people'. This subject has been talk fested to death ever since it was raised and doesn't need any words from me to add to all that red faced indignation and ludicrous posturing based on nothing but any given writer's pig ignorance of facts, figures and democracy generally. Three things only need to be remembered unless you possess the education of today's Australian educated 13 year old males (either by actually being 13 or being the mental and educational equivalent of a thirteen year old Australian educated male} and have therefore no ability to comprehend simple facts and political processes. 1) The filtering proposed by the Labor government will NOT in any way slow down any Australian user's ability to access the internet at the speeds and capabilities he/she did before any filtering is turned on....assuming that turns out to be the case. 2) In the event that any end user has any 'technical' (and I use that word in its loosest sense) knowledge about how to access the internet via any form of proxy then the filtering proposed to be used by the Labor government will not prevent any such user avoiding any filtering process at all with all IPs banned by the Labor government remaining as accessible as they were before filtering was turned on. 3) If you don't like what the Labor party has done then don't vote for it at the next election - people you vote for are clearly entitled to carry out what they stated they would do before you voted for them. And that's it - there is nothing else - move on, this is not the legislation that is going to ruin your life or even slow down your theft of other people's property. None of the loathsome slime that access and pass on child pornography will be in any way inconvenienced by this storm in a political tea cup and all that will happen is that the Labor government will waste a few more hundreds of millions of dollars of your and my money buying boxes from Scandinavia to proclaim another giant step forward in their delivery of enlightened government to the great Australian working families. Just think about this waste (on a subject you can understand) and realise that the same uneducated lack of knowledge idiocy has gone in to every other decision these pig ignorant d***heads have made since those of you who voted for them gave them the keys to the tax income cash box.
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I wonder if they would add sites like this to the filter http://stephenconroy.com.au/news.php
I know in other countries that have filters that any anti government sites somehow manage to end up in the filtered lists Comments (2)
speaking of anti government sites getting filtered, they managed to get this site down in record time, details here http://stephen-conroy.com/page.php?4 didn't think they'd get away with it for too long
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"So For Goodness Sake stop whining! You only have yourself to blame if you voted Labor at the last election and if you whine now and vote Labor at the next election then you really are the equivalent of an Australian educated 13 year old male......there is no reality in life for you."
Don't think I could have said it better myself John. There are alot of people with no real clue in that regard. You vote them in, you vote for EVERYTHING they want to do. If people were smart (long shot I know) they would shift their focus to what can be changed assuming the legislation goes through. And from my perspective, that is the rating system. At present in Australia it's an old holdover system that cannot really apply to the internet, and well, and new forms of media younger than 25 years. Comments (2)
Hmm, didn't John Howard have the same plan too? Voting either way would have given us the same outcome.
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Shhhh..... no one wants to hear that. It's all a labour problem that the world saving liberals wouldn't ever think of creating!
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There's more than 2 parties in this country, and the Greens are against the filter.
They're more than just "the green alternative" - have a look at some of their policies and you might find they're probably the most democratic of all the parties! Comment (1)
John speaks the truth here. It sucks when you're not a socialist because it appears all the "alternative" parties lean towards the left. We really are left no choice but to vote for the coalition or some party that loosely follows your beliefs but at the end of the day does not represent you very well.
I wish people would read a history book. Wouldn't have things like socialist governments or "global warming". Fun fact: If you think the state indoctrinate is good enough for yourself or children, education is not a priority for you. John if you want to get really worked up grab a copy of the leaked Copenhagen Treaty. Comment (1)
Voting Rudd appeared to be the lesser of two evils at the time, and fttn sounded fun.
Might have to vote for the pirate party :p James Comment (1)
The reason that democracy has never worked is that people capable of expressing the views you have just done get to vote.
Universal suffrage epitomises the reason why democracy can never produce even a semblance of reasonable government - however that debate was lost a long time ago simply because people who express views like yours were never envisioned as being part of the process. Comments (2)
John, I agree with a few things you say sometimes, but honestly, do you think your precious Libs wouldn't have made such a cock-up of ICT policy here and over the NBN, given the chance?
Quit grandstanding and the elitism, and as you say, let's get on with it. By the way, the filtering is a right-wing policy, don't try to paint this as a left wing plot. A lot of people voted Rudd on the strength of the Anyone-But-Howard campaign, it's not hard to find examples of wedge politicking that completely backfired, and the key line used from Herr Conroy was "Opt-Out", not "Mandatory". Comments (2)
1) If you don't like what I write - don't read it - that remedy is entirely in your hands.
2) "Beloved Libs" - I have never written a single positive word about the Liberal party so why try and invent things that have never been said or implied? 3) You epitomise why democracy never works - it allows people like you to vote who treat that incredibly serious responsibility in the way you 'barrack' for sporting teams and with as much senselessness. 4) Any legislation promulgated by a left/centre party such as Australian Labor cannot, by definition be "right wing". It is simply the policy of the government that promulgates it - for whatever cynical reasons. Please don't waste your time reading opinions that are based on facts and scenarios that far too difficult for you to comprehend - if you try you'll only get a headache. Comments (2)
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